Friday, February 18, 2011

E1b1b1 Jewish haplogroup


E1b1b1 (M35) Migration through Jericho

According to Wikipedia :The linguistic group and E1b1b1 may have dispersed together from the region of origin of this language family. Amongst populations with an Afro-Asiatic speaking history, a significant proportion of Jewish male lineages are E1b1b1 (E-M35). Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18% to 20% of Ashkenazi and 8.6% to 30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.

And the Museum of Learning : The E1b1b1 haplogroup formerly known as E3b1 has been observed in all Jewish groups worldwide. It is considered to be the second most prevalent haplogroup among the Jewish population outside of the J haplogroups. According to one non-peer reviewed paper it has also been observed in moderate numbers among individuals from Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Samaritan communities having traditions of descending from the tribe of Levi, suggesting that the E1b1b1 men claiming to be Levites may have existed in Israel before the Diaspora of 70 CE.

And Loftin DNA Testing : Previously it had been assumed that the Haplogroup E1b1b1 (E-M35) "arose in East Africa" and the Haplogroup was "often incorrectly described as “African,” leaving a misimpression regarding the origin and complex history of this Haplogroup". According to the International Society of Genetic Genealogy (ISOGG) and National Geographic's Genographic Project, E1b1b1 may have arisen instead in the Near East or the Middle East and then expanded into the Mediterranean with the spread of agriculture. E-M35, the most current group of E1b1b1 includes the individuals with no known sub-clade mutations (who are therefore said to be in the "ancestral state" referred to as E1b1b1 or E-M35).

82 comments:

  1. Very interesting article. I think I am E1b1b

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  2. I'm confused. My DNA says that I am E1b1b1-M35. My surname is Johnson and I am from the Southern US. I am Caucasian. I do not know of any Jewish folks in my ancestry. I know that the Johnsons came from England. But according to my DNA there are very few E1b1b1-M35's who live in England. Are you saying that according to my Y DNA, I could be part Jewish? I find all of the DNA lingo very confusing so can you simplify what E1b1b1-M35
    means? Thanks

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    1. The haplogroup e1b1b1-M35 is not hebrew. The Natufian Culture in the Levant (not jewish) was e1b1b1. They were in the Levant over 15,000 years before the Hebrews. The Natufians invented farming, and they are the ones who brought farming into Europe 10,000 years ago when the ice age was ending. Also, this haplogroup was well established first in North Africa. Many crossed the land bridge into Spain, having never set foot in the Levant. Contemporary Judaic scholars acknowledge that the hebrews of the bible are largelly mythic constructions used to create cosmological coherence and a nationalistic concept of peoplehood across a very diverse landscape of tribes and ethnic groups in the ancient middle east. Not even the most concerted genealogical studies have been able to establish a direct unbroken link to the first rabbis or patriarchs. You do not belong to the culture who puts into their religious document the phrase..."Kill every man and woman, young and old." Can you imagine killing a whole civilization because they have a different belief system that holds their group together.

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    2. Can you imagine someone on the Internet condemning an entire religious group based on a sentence fragement from their religious text taken out of context?

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    3. Can you imagine a religious group condemning another religious group on various sentences fragments from their religious text taken out of context? (Which is happening right now in New York on subways.)

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    4. Seth, Seth is a Hebrew name. There is what's know as the "10 Lost Tribes Of Israel" because of the two Diasporas. 23andme.com has DNA testing for 99.00 now. They will be able to tell you if you are Jewish and at what percent.

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    5. means ur family surname should be Spencer

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    6. don't listen to these idiots. E1b1b1 is more common in North Africans than Hebrews and only a fraction of "Hebrews" have this haplogroup. If E1b1b1 is Hebrew than Israel is going to have to welcome many hundreds of millions of new 'chosen people' and something tells me they won't be much wanted considering a large portion of such people are muslim ;)

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    7. President Johnson was E1b1b1 M35.1, so am I. Your DNA can easily can be from the near east, spread through the Mediterranean, predating "Jews" and "Muslim" people by thousands of years. Think Canaanites and Phoenicians. These people can be found throughout Europe in percentages from 2-40% depending on country, so its "origin" is not necessarily "nationality", if you look at at tat way.

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  3. Seth, I'm confused too with the concept of haplogroups and dna. However if I'm getting it right....E1b1b1-M35, has several sub-clads off of it. Like a tree with branches or limbs. We are the M35 limb and off of this limb are those other branches or sub-clads (caused by further mutations of M35) These mutations give rise to Jewish, Berber, Somali, and others. Or another way to view it is M35 is back farther in the line of mutations so off of Us the mutation marking the Jewish cluster could come. Think of it as in this case the M35 Chicken came before the Jewish egg. Hope this clears it up a bit for you.

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  4. I have read that E1b1b1-M35.1 is a main branch of the Levites - Priests, Decendents of Aaron, the brother of Moses. But the M35.1 goes back much further to proto Aramaic Cultures. I am curious to learn how far back this goes.... It is very interesting to see that Naploeon, Einstein and the Levite High Priests may be distant cousins.

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    1. How does anyone know the haplogroup of Aaron and Moses? Where are they buried? The Natufians (not jewish) in the Levant were haplogroup e1b1b1. They are the ones who migrated North into Europe 10,000 years ago, bringing the knowledge of farming with them. Also, the e1b1b1 founder was from Africa. This haplogroup also crossed the land bridge into Spain, having never set foot in the Levant. Many Greeks and Italians are e1b1b1, and many Greek and Roman woman married jewish men before conversion to judaism was outlawed by the Roman empire. Not even the most conserted genealogical studies have been able to establish a direct unbrokenlink to the first rabbis or patriarchs.

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    2. The Samaritan Cohen line traces back to Aaron. They have records as well as DNA

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    3. many Cohens have haplotypes close to the CMH (Cohen Modal Haplotype), a greater number of such haplotypes worldwide belong to people with no likely Cohen connection at all

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    4. Even if Greek and Roman women married Jewish men, the only DNA that counts for any connection would be that of the men, fathers, sons, etc. That DNA runs deep, generation to generation; father to son for generations. The CMH, also known as the Cohen Modal Haplotype, is a greater test for those Jews closely connected to the tribe of Levi, the high priests, rabbis, etc.

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  5. also Hitler is of this group... so mixed bag i think

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  6. Some of the very best and very worst .... interesting Haplogroup indeed, How is it that Einstein and Hitler could have similar DNA ? Is it a German thing ? Or a bizarre Middle Eastern connection ? Strange.

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  7. FTDNA has "null 425" as a project within itself. (ie: marker 425 yields a value of "null") These marker numbers align with E1b1b1 Or and E-M35.1 The head of the project has researched this line to the Tribe of Zebulun (brother of Levi). Do some of you here have this same "value" for marker 425? (I am E1b1b1 as well).

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    1. I bet "the tribe of zebulun" intermarried with non-jewish e1b1b1. Also, the hebrews kept slaves who might have been e1b1b1. Sounds like the "head of the project" is trying to bend the truth.

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    2. Yeah Anonymous, maybe the Einstein, Luria, Cohen and other families are not Jewish.

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    3. My brother is E1b1b1 M35.1 and Null 425. Records of his ancestors only go back to England about 1800; no Jewish connection known.

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    4. Anonymous - Yes, my husband/and male family members are also E1b1b1 (M35.1). I have never heard of this tribe of Zebuon, brother of Levi. As far as I can see there is no mention of Null 425 connected to his National Geographic testing. We are awaiting Geno 2.0 results - only 80% complete at this date. This will give me more to explore.

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    5. Anonymous - Yes, my husband and his male family members are also E1b1b1 (M35.1) His latest National Geographic test results are also not complete - 80% and our kits were mailed on Good Friday. I wonder if this particular haplogroup is under greater study - it will be interesting to get the results.

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    6. I have the null 425. Interesting indeed. My Y chromosome is from the "Jordan" family, Scottish. Obviously, goes back to the Levant in origin. I understand the name Jordan was associated with the Jordan river and being from that tradition of baptism in the Jordan. Make sense to me that thousands of years ago they sail out throughout the Mediterranean and end up in small numbers throughout Europe! Remember, surnames are a relatively "new" thing in the history of mankind. Believe your DNA, it doesn't lie.

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  8. The "Hitler" connection. His "Grand Nephew" was tested? I for one would need more. Have the researchers appeal to the Kremlin (or, powers that be, in Russia) and have his (Hitler's) supposed teeth (they have in a vault) tested. This would still not be conclusive. But, if these teeth matched the "Grand Nephew", the percentage of possibility increases. I would just not rely on what might be his relative. To much of a reach.

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  9. hey anonymouse whoops meant anonymouse, you seem really bent out of shape- guess einstein wasnt jewish- yeah you overlooked that little piece of FACT in your quest to discredit an entire race. also, many of my friends JEWISH relatives are m35.1 e1b1b1- stop spewing filth and crawl back under that rock from which you came.

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  10. "Yeah Anonymous, maybe the Einstein, Luria, Cohen and other families are not Jewish." good point Ben. anonymouse- whoopsey anonymous, might have a little mental problem since he is vehemently denying FACTS.

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  11. E1b1b1(M35) originated from somalis(cushites).Everyone run run from black hahaaa.

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  12. There has been rumors that hitlers great grandmother was Jewish

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    1. His great grandmother can't pass any y-DNA to him.

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  13. E1b1b are the original population of the so called "Canaan", the creepy people who make you feel like second class jews just cause you are E1b1b are really living in your ancestral land, in reality E1b1b existed before Jews, Christians & Muslims, be proud of who you are...Don't shun your true ancestors!

    Stop being a slave! J1c3d are not natives to Canaan (they are Syro-Arabian desert people), J1* are from Anatolia, J2 are typical Anatolians-Mesopotamians, that are in every farming culture

    E1b1b = True native of Israel, your cousins built Ancient Greece & Ancient Egypt. Your ancestral land

    Join the E1b1b tribe in Facebook!

    http://www.facebook.com/pages/E1b1b1-M35-Meditids/103116293079003

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    1. http://www.theseason.org/ezra/ezra2.htm
      this article provides evidence that underhanded activities took place between the two temples.

      In the Jewish bible, the Tanakh, the books of Ezra, Nehemiah, and the collaborating books of the Chronicles are placed at the end. Their accuracy is questioned by some Jews and relegated to the back along with Daniel, writings, and poetry.

      It is also interesting to note that Judaism is conveyed by the mother rather than by tribe or paternity. Reason is given, but it contravenes the example of how priests and levites are maintained.

      The only question for me is how E1b1b1 figures into the lineage of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

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    2. One for sake of Clarity I see that Most Jewish called themselves Semites, this is Due to the Fact that they think their earliest Ancestor was Shem who was Noah son, based on that All Humanity is

      divided among 3 lineages:

      Adam -> Noah -> 3 sons (Japhet, Ham and Shem)

      1) Hamtics:
      would be Halopgroups D E O > Halopgrou
      D and Halopgroup E Halopgroup 0(Original Romans=E-V13, 55%Latin and 30%North Americans = E-V13 , Egyptians, Japanese (Halopgroup D) Chinese (halopgoup 0), Ethiopians, Libyans, Morrocans,

      Palestinians...)

      2)Semites:
      IJ (S2) > J (M304) > J1 (M267) and J2 (M175) (Israelites, Jews, Arabs, Assyrians, Iraquis, Chechens, Jordans...)

      3)Japhethics-Aryans-Caucasians would be
      P (M45) > R (M207) > R1 (M173) > R1b (M343) > R1b1 (P25) > R1b1c (M269) (Rusians, Slavics, Celtics)
      P (M45) > Q (M45) (Mayans, Aztecs, Incas, Native Americans)

      On the Jewish writings we found that
      E-M35 is Royal lineage Noah gave Ham the clothing Adam and Eve this is why Nimrod was able to Rule and be the first King of the world

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    3. One for sake of Clarity I see that Most Jewish called themselves Semites, this is Due to the

      Fact that they think their earliest Ancestor was Shem who was Noah son, based on that All

      Humanity is divided among 3 lineages:

      Adam -> Noah -> 3 sons (Japhet, Ham and Shem)

      1) Hamtics:
      Halopgroups D E O

      )Semites:
      Halopgroups IJ


      3)Japhethics-Aryans-Caucasians would be
      Halopgroups P Q and R


      Now I concentrate with Canaan son of Ham

      Canaan

      Canaan is Hamitic via Ham son of Noah

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan

      His Hamitic sons are

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Sidon (Lebanon) Sidonians the Phoenicians

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Hittites (Turkey)

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Jebusites (Jerusalem JebuSALEM in Israel now)

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Sinites (Sine Chinese Halopgroup O )

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Amorites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Girgashites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Hivites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Arkites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Arvadites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Zemarites

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Hamathites


      Son In short the Hamitic sons of Canaan are:
      1.Sidonians, i.e. the Phoenicians
      2.Hittites, children of Heth
      3.Jebusites
      4.Amorites
      5.Girgashites
      6.Hivites
      7.Arkites
      8.Sinites
      9.Arvadites
      10.Zemarites
      11.Hamathites

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    4. I have to step in and state about this genetic brake down on Noah and his sons changing their haplogroup into new genetic material. One begs the question then what haplogroup was Noah? if the sons of Noah where all different from their father? Genetics is proving that haplogroup E/D was the original haplogroup that started the human race. And this junk statement above was started by a man who wanted to fit in the genetic profile found in the world today. He stated that some radiation that was kick up from the flood changed the DNA of Noahs sons, that is a load of bull. What genetics if finding out is that haplogroup E has no Neanderthal DNA, when Noah getting off the boat and sons having children migrated north and mixing with Neanderthal DNA mutated there genome. Becoming J1, J2, R1 and ect. If you take note that when you look at Northern European DNA has almost 4.0% Neanderthal DNA! And when you go east heading into China they are mixed with different sets of Neanderthal type peoples became new haplogroups. So, these statements above give rise to false information. ALL Tribes of the Middle East are E with back migration of J1 and J2 and R1b mixed with Neanderthal blood in them.

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  14. Scientists determine ages of human cultures through various methods which include ages of accumulated layers of sediment and the expected findings of artifacts and remains there. However, findings always must conform to expectations which usually reject Biblical writings. Genetics isn't any different. There are two seemingly contradicting issues: The Great Flood and the abundance of Y-DNA haplotypes among Jews. The Great Flood cannot be true while accepting only one haplotype for Jews via the patriarch Jacob. This why it is a simple matter to declare that Jews are a coalescent assembly of different haplotypes that we see today. The issue for scientists is the snail's pace by which haplotypes arise. With a Great Flood creating a bottleneck of one haplotype between Noah and his three sons, how could the abundance of haplotypes we have now be possible? And how could they have been created by the time of Jacob? So that is the issue: the Great Flood creates circumstances that prevents the creation of more than one major haplotype for the Jews.

    However, what if - the Fountains of the Deep (Genesis 7:11) contained radioactive isotopes which led to a rapid Y-DNA mutation rate until rains washed it into the silt of the oceans. In a matter of generations we would have several haplotypes and then no more significant mutations for thousands for years after enough rain removed it.

    So it is possible to have one haplotype as the progenitor of Israelites. 10 tribes were removed arund 721 BCE and some of those went far east: Japan, Tibet, and India. They do not possess haplotype J. They are descended from haplotype DE as D's. They are cousins to haplogroup E. http://www5.ocn.ne.jp/~magi9/isracame.htm

    Archeology, tradition, and Biblical sources hint that a part of the Tribe of Dan left Egypt before the Exodus and went north across the sea into Greece and the Balkans. E1b1b1 V13+ is heavily represented there. Curious.

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  15. I am an E1b1b1 (M35). My ancestors came from Spain to Argentina many centuries ago. In Spain there have been Jews with the same last name as I have: Saravia. “Saravia” is a Visigothic word that means “road”, and was adopted as a last name by Visigoths that lived in Cantabria near 1000 AD. I had my genetic test done in 2006, but it was just a few days ago that I learned that Albert Einstein belonged to the same haplogroup as I do. Really surprising!

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  16. Yaacov Ben PanteraJune 26, 2012 at 6:43 PM

    Yeah Hugo .... Einstein, the Wright brothers, the artist Caravaggio, and many other men of genius. You have Goof DNA ! Pass it on.

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    1. Hi Yaacob. Are you an E1b1b1-M35.1 too? Where are you from?

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    2. I am confused. I am also E1b1b1 but I was born in Iraq and I am not a Jew.

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  17. I was recently surprised to learn that my line comes from the E1b1b1- M35.1 Haplogroup. I have our line going back to the mid 15th century in north central Germany (northern Hesse). I suspect the family moved from the Sauerland in the early 15th century. The surprise comes because I thought that my name was Saxon in origin. Has anyone identified pockets of the E1b1b1-M35.1 group along the Rhine River?

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    1. My husband is E1b1b1 (M35.1), too. He traces his family to first Switzerland then into France (Alsace-Lorraine) and then Germany. We don't have much information as to why or when the family left Switzerland. Some of his grandfather's family remained in Germany - his great-grandparents moved from Germany to the United States. My husband's grandfather was the first in his family born in the US. My father-in-law died last year at the age of 94. Our last name can be either German or Jewish from our searches.

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  18. I'm Eb1b1b1. I'm trying to figure out what ethnicity this. This is surprising; you wouldn't be able to tell by first sight-- or would you?

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  19. Hi all I am an E-M35 E-V13 part of the Raising Hamitic Nation

    so far thisis is what I have discover, let me know if you have many more facts

    One for sake of Clarity I see that Most Jewish called themselves Semites, this is Due to the Fact that they think their earliest Ancestor was Shem who was Noah son, based on that All Humanity is

    divided among 3 lineages:

    Adam -> Noah -> 3 sons (Japhet, Ham and Shem)

    1) Hamtics:
    would be Halopgroups D E O > Halopgrou
    D and Halopgroup E Halopgroup 0(Original Romans=E-V13, 55%Latin and 30%North Americans = E-V13 , Egyptians, Japanese (Halopgroup D) Chinese (halopgoup 0), Ethiopians, Libyans, Morrocans,

    Palestinians...)

    2)Semites:
    IJ (S2) > J (M304) > J1 (M267) and J2 (M175) (Israelites, Jews, Arabs, Assyrians, Iraquis, Chechens, Jordans...)

    3)Japhethics-Aryans-Caucasians would be
    P (M45) > R (M207) > R1 (M173) > R1b (M343) > R1b1 (P25) > R1b1c (M269) (Rusians, Slavics, Celtics)
    P (M45) > Q (M45) (Mayans, Aztecs, Incas, Native Americans)

    On the Jewish writings we found that
    E-M35 is Royal lineage Noah gave Ham the clothing Adam and Eve this is why Nimrod was able to Rule and be the first King of the world

    Now Combining the DNA, the Bible and Roman and Greek Mythology we get the following:

    a) That the E Halopgroup is Hamitic or descendants of Ham (similar to? the usage of Jews for Semites using for it the Biblical Character Shem, or similar to the Biblical character Japheth which his

    descendants now are called Caucasians)

    b) I Read a good book called the Faces of the Hamitic People by Khamit Raamah Kush which I found let some light to my Hamitic roots
    http://books.google.ca/books?id=OEy01TUojG0C&pg=PA223&lpg=PA223&dq=the+hamitic+faces&source=bl&ots=khUeUcszov&sig=RIwm3O_zDVla2QfBo0cT6APOGW0&hl=en#v=onepage&q=the%20hamitic%20faces&f=false


    c) Googled I found that the E-V13 gene pool are Original Roman-Trojan genes (Since Saturn Jupiter and Zeus are associated with Nimrod, a descendant of Cush via Ham, and histories of Nimrod seeking

    refuge on the 7 hills of Rome and from that point on the Original Romans called him Saturn, Originating the Feast of Saturnilia on December 25)

    d) The E-V13 gene root Ancestor was Nimrod the Powerful Hunter Before the Lord also called as well the Orion, Zeus and Jupiter? and Saturn etc

    e) Ham would be the E Halopgroup ==> Cush (Cronus)= E-M35 ==> Nimrod (Zeus)= E-V13 ==> Dardanus = Dardania ==> Tros = Troy (Trojans)==> Ilus =(Illum) Illyria (Albania)==> Latinus = Latin (the Roman

    form of the Greek Lateinos) Lateo "to lie hid" or the hidden one)==> Romulos = Founder of the Roman Empire ==> current Romans are the E-V13

    f) The Clue for my findings were the Ethiopians and the Yemeni E-M35 as they fit perfectly the Biblical account of Being the descendants of Cush

    g) Famous Hamitics E-M35 include Albert Einstein, The wright Brothers, and even Hittler. However looks like throughout history there has been lots of converts of this Hamitic Branch to Judaism

    which makes 40% of the Jewish Population on the Ashkenazi and Sephardi groups

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    1. H) Hamitic Nation Faces

      1) Hamitic Genealogy:

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham

      2) Hamitic Genetics:
      Halopgroups E, D and O (posibly others but still investigating)

      3)Ham Children:

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush E-M78, Mizraim E-M123, Phut E-M81, Canaan (Halopgroup O or Chinese so far)

      4) Cush Children:

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Nimrod (E-V13), Seba, Havilah, Sabtah, Raamah, Sabtechah

      Nimrod (called as well Zeus, Jupiter, Saturn) E-V13 -> Romans, Greeks, Macedonians, Montenegro, and some percentage in other countries in Europe Romanized and or Greekinized by the E-V13s

      Sabtah E-V22 -> Phoenicians, Palestinians, 40% Jews/Israelis,

      Sebah E-V12 -> Yemen, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Sudan

      5) Hamitic Nation by Nimrod E-V13

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham-> Cush -> Nimrod (E-V13)-> Romans (Romulus), Albania (Illus, Illyria), Kosovo (Dardanus), Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro, Philisteans (Palestinians)
      23% serbians, 20% bulgarians, 18% Italians and from 5 to 15% in all other countries in Europe
      75% of Latin Americans (Conquistadores)
      30% North Americans

      6) Hamitics as Nation Builders
      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Nimrod -> Brutus founder of Britania, Latinus father of all Latins, Dardanus father of all Kosovars or Dardania, Illus father of all Illyrians, Tros father of the

      Trojans, Romulus Father of all Romans etc etc etc
      Nimrod Built
      Babel (Babylon), Erech, Accad and Calneh, all in the land of Shinar was built by Nimrod, Then He built in the territory of Assyria Nineveh and Rehoboth-Ir and Calah and Resen Between Nineveh and

      Calah

      7) Hamitic Nation by countries:

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Halopgroup D -> Japanese, Tibetans, Tajiskistan

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Sine -> Halopgroup O -> Daxy Culture, Hmong-Mien (Miao-Yao) Southern China Southeast Asia, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Burma

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Ethiopia, Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Sudan, Egypt, Palestine, Libya, Morrocco, Algeria, Kenya

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    2. 8)The Hamitic Nation has the following colors (Our Melanin works perfectly as we have the greatest diversity):

      Yellow Hamitics
      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Sine -> Halopgroup O -> Daxy Culture, Hmong-Mien (Miao-Yao) Southern China Southeast Asia, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Burma

      Brown and white Hamitics
      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Egypt, Palestine, Libya, Morrocco, Latin Americans, North Americans, Hispanics,
      Romans (Romulus), Albanians (Illus, Illyria), Kosovo (Dardania Dardanus), Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro, Romania
      23% serbians, 20% bulgarians, 18% Italians and the 5% to 15% in all other countries in Europe

      Black Hamites
      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Ethiopia, Yemen, Oman, Somalia, Sudan, Morrocco, Algeria, Kenya, India
      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Canaan -> Sine -> Halopgroup O -> Daxy Culture, Hmong-Mien (Miao-Yao) Southern China Southeast Asia, Thailand, Laos, Vietnam, Burma

      9) Hamitic Faces:

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Obama, Albert Einstein, Hittler, 40% of Jews/Israelis, Shalom Ben Amram ben Yitzhaq Samaritan High Priest, Wright Brothers, Me! and the Rest of E-M35s
      Albanians Kosovars, Latin Americans, Egyptians etc etc, black white, brown and yellow!!

      10) Genealogies of Famous

      Adam -> Noah -> Ham -> Cush -> Nimrod

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Hittler (unfortunately but that would be his genealogy)

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Kosovars

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Albanians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Greeks

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Macedonians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> Montenegro

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> South Italians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> 75% Latin Americans

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> E-V13 (Nimrod)-> 40% North Americans

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Egyptians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Philisteans - Palestinians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Libyans

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Morrocans

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Ethiopians

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Sudan

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Kenya

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Obama

      E (Ham)-> E-M35 (Cush)-> Albert Einstein

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    3. do you want to tell that "Kosovars" are separated nation? It is stupidity. It is today's social -political ingenering.

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  20. Here is the Best Youtube clip explaining the Origings of the E Halopgroup the E-M35 and specially the E-v13 that I am proudly part of it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63Y3kIuONx4

    Enjoy it My Hamitic Brothers and Sistes

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  21. What Hamitic means ? What is the Hamitic Race?

    Hamitic are all the Male descendents of Biblical Ham Son of Noah


    Genesis 5:32 indicates that Noah begat
    Shem (Semitic people - getically Halopgroup J and I),
    Ham (Hamitic People genetically Halopgroup E D and O) and
    Japheth (Caucasian people genetically Halopgroup R and Q and P)

    The Awakening and Revival of the Hamitic Roman Latinus term is 2012 12 12 12:12

    A day of Great Joy and beginning of a New era of love and Unity among manking.

    Peace to all men of goodwill!

    The Symbol of the Revived Hamitic Roman Latinus is the two Headed Eagle.

    One Head looks Towards Latin Europe (E-M35 gene pool - Kosovo, Albania Rome, Greece, Macedonia, Montenegro).

    One Head looks Towards Latin America (E-M35 gene pool - from Mexico to Argentina, including the ones on the USA).

    Carefully chosen as our New symbol as the current era ends with the old year, and a New Era begins with the new Year.

    The E-V13 Hamitic gene is the Roman gene of Ancient Rome before the fall of 500 AD.


    Enjoy the YouTube clip of the Hamitic Roman Latinus Revival 2012 12 12 12:12
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiTRsDG_low

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    1. What group of Noah and his sons would you consider an E1b1b1 (M35.1) to be with no indication of the E-V13 Hamitic gene?

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    2. In addition to my above question about the E-V13 gene - my husband's ancestory shows staying in the Middle East for quite some time separated from but along Mediterranean countries. Later ancestors appeared in Europe - Switzerland, France (Alsace-Lorraine) and Germany.

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  22. 2012 12 12 12:12am

    An Amazing begining, planted very small like a mustard seed.

    Pirke De-Rabbi Eliezer (c. 833) relates the Jewish traditions that the Hamitic Nimrod inherited the garments of Adam and Eve from his father Cush, and that these made him invincible. Nimrod's party then defeated their oppresors to assume universal rulership.


    (part of Clementine literature) states that The Hamitic Nimrod "saw in the sky a piece of black cloth and a crown." He called upon Sasan the weaver and commanded him to make him a crown like it, which he set jewels on and wore. He was allegedly the first king to wear a crown. "For this reason people who knew nothing about it, said that a crown came down to him from heaven."

    The Revival of the E-M35 E-V13 Hamitic Roman Latinus has begun!

    The Gates of Elohim were open it at 2012 12 12 12:12am


    2012 12 12 12:12am

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  23. 2012 12 12 12:12 pm passed

    This completes the Hamitic E-V13 E-M35 double headed Eagle ceremony

    One head 12:12 am
    One head 12:12 pm

    One head Latin Europe
    One head Latin America

    We the Hamitic E-V13 E-M35 are now managing again the Main Gate of Elohim.

    In Sign of Peace and Good will, we erected a Latin Cross!

    2012 12 12 12:12pm

    Now we are getting back all our Hamitic Symbols

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  24. The Hamitic Web site is up

    http://hamitic.wordpress.com/

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  25. I dont know... but i think am E1b1b-V13 because i am from albania, rolf!!

    Someone Anony. say "The Natufians invented farming, and they are the ones who brought farming into Europe 10,000 years ago when the ice age was ending." if is right (..)
    In past Albanias was called Arberia, ar-beria means the "ppl who work the land" or "man of earth"....

    see that link "E1b1b-V13 10,000 years ago Balkans Albanians"
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup

    Kilimanjaro Tanzania Ea1 "Adam"
    https://sites.google.com/site/haplogroupe1a1/

    if u see the map albanian is the center of E1b1b-V13...
    we have albanian in South Italy called Arberes-->
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wk0B4W3dvY&list=PL2F1A90F28D10A4BE&index=19

    Have albanian in greece for centuries called same arberes(Arvanites)-->
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNYZqHwZHYM&list=PL2F1A90F28D10A4BE&index=21

    "all Kosovo" in Macedonia 40% ppl, Serbia, Montenegro, ukraine, Aigypt, tourkey, Syria etc...-->
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ef0S5_e3pc&list=PL2F1A90F28D10A4BE&index=12

    "The Tale of the Eagle" - Albanian Mythology
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsN5C7SpxyA&list=PL2F1A90F28D10A4BE&index=13

    in albanian language we can translate all ancient "god of greece"...
    Dia-Zeus(jupitar) means Dia/dit/dial/Diel-knowledge, light, born, sun.
    zeus(Zeu) means "the voice".
    Hades from Ha-dhe's means "Eating dust"... when u die buried in the dust and go in underworld.

    During the last centuries, Albanians suffering in Balkans, cannot live together and freely with their people... been cut in 5 country.
    i don't want to believe that suffer because of bloodlines E1b1b-V13.


    And one last video for illyrians in albanian translation "Free Man"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgqc10_pyWQ&list=PL2F1A90F28D10A4BE&index=30

    Am proud to be Pelasgian/illyrian/Albanian

    Thanx for watching
    Regard's Vin

    P.S.1 soz for my english
    P.S.2 I dont believe all of that "blood" etc... i believe on Human Values ​​spirit and mind, but mythology is always interesting! :D

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  26. what about the African American? They are not in the list although they claim hametic. They carry E1b1a, and had origin in West Africa 20kya years before. Do we need some symathy here? For sure they are children of Adam, but could be through Cain

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    1. Why Cain and not ...? Black man always kept down ...

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  27. Well this is very old data .... " Haplogroup E1b1b1, accounts for approximately ... 20% of Ashkenazi ...30% of Sephardi Y-chromosomes: one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population."

    The percentage is actually much higher than 50 % .... as more families submit their y-DNA samples to FamilyTreeDNA, 23andMe, and NationalGeographic Genograhic Project we are seeing that 90 % of the Jewish Population is in fact E1b1b1-***

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    1. that is because The E1b1 E haplogroup has always been the founding haplogroup of the edomites and the Israelites both groups will fall within the E1b1 E haplogroup.

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    2. Can you send me the sources, I am also E1b1b1, I was born in Iraq but I don't think I am Arab. I need to know more info about this please. thank you.

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    3. Can you please direct me to the article(s) that proffer that 90% of the Jewish population is E1b1?

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  28. I am E1b1b1 just like just like most of my fellow Horners & NE Africans along the Red Sea and Nile routes: Ethiopia, Eritrea,Somali,North Sudan, Egypt )....Given the very high doses of this haplogroup in the Borana Oromo (SW Ethiopians/North Kenya) and Somali, I believe that this in fact originated in the Horn of Africa or Egypt, former cross roads to the old world...

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  29. Very interesting. Yes, recent studies are showing much higher percentage of Sephardic Heritage is E1b1b1...... I wonder how many Converso (esp. Spanish and Italian Catholics) are of this Haplogroup.

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  30. I am mexican, but my DNA is E3b-M.35, and as far i know all my ancestors were born in Mexico. The unique explanation for my existence here is that one of my remote ancestor (mudejar) came as a soldier of spanish conquerors.

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  31. Yes.... I am also Sephardic. E1b1b1 a1b

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  32. Yes. Thanks. This is very very very interesting.

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  33. E1b1b1 a2.... and Jewish too!

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  34. Thanks for this information. My family is Cohen and I was told we'd be J1 or J2 so we were very surprised to learn we are E1b1b1 a1a. ?.. M Cohen

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    1. Dear Cohen

      You are Cohen a real priest of Israel! Remember your history when the second temple was sacked and the priest of Israel was in captivity only ONE was allowed to come back! We have documentation of that ONE priest linage. Many mixed people came back after the second exile I feel it was the J1 and J2 who pretended to be priest of Israel. Think about it if you sacked a city how can you maintain control but to seed your people with them to keep track!

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  35. what i find interesting is that the majority of european askenazim are NOT e1b1b1 (e-m35). this haplogroup subclade exisits also among the sephardim; berbers; in the balkans, italy, albania, greece, etc. there were many times both before & after the roman empire that jews & others of this group would travel the levant, or go from north africa -- egypt, tunisia, morocco, or turkey into the balkans or into spain, italy, greece, and so on. a person in this subclade is not necessarily jewish. this can be confusing, hope this helps.

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    1. Yes. My family is askenazi and we are E1b1b1 M35.1 so yes. ... confusing.

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  36. For those who says E1b1b1 belongs to Ham or other of Noah son's, it is still early to judge. In fact many Arabs were found to be under E1b1b1 haplogroup and jewish as well, which indicates the link between them since part of Arab and jewish are from Ibrahim progeny!

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  37. Can someone tell me where are you getting the M35.1 from. I did my Dna and had my brother do his DNA. Now my brother's haplogroup comes up E1b1a. It shows my father's ancestral comes from the Sub Saharan Africa. Please advise where can I find the other number. which you have listed as M35.1 ??? thank you.

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  38. E1b1b1 is North African. Just because a fraction of Jews carry does not mean it gets to belong to Jews 'just because'. It is most likely present in Jewish population by intermarriage with North Africans, just like it is present in Europe for the very same reason! And it is only present in a minority of Jews just like it is present in a minority of Europeans. So why would anyone be so bold as to claim "oh, since 20% of Ashkenazi men have this Ydna it must be property of the Jews" even though the vast vast VAST majority of carriers are not even Jewish! But lo and behold it is all the talk amongst Jewish circles as a "Jewish" haplotype. Well, I must be a chosen one now! Can I get a free ticket to Israel? haha

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  39. first off the J2 haplogroup is not shemitic it is anatolian and has nothing to do with the original shemites, the E1b1 haplogroup and its branches E3a and E3b are amongs the oldest haplogroups in existence today, the high level of mutations is this haplogroup signifies that it has been in existence before any haplogroup possessed by those now attributed to people claiming to be shemitic such as the J1 which is which originated in sumeria and is way down stream to E1b1 for example if J1 was the son, E1b1 would be his grandfather to the 8 power. so if E1b1 is Ham's descendants that would make Ham older than Shem by several thousands of years this is what happens when we try to distinguish shemites and hamites by using ydna it does not fit Ham and Shem are symbols signifing cultures and languages not different races of people and these two cultures have always existed side by side for thousands of years sharing one another discoveries and mingling with each.

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    1. Dear AhaYah
      You are very correct! E1b1b1 Is the very haplogroups that started in the Middle East! And are the people who birthed Abraham and so on. Finally some one with a BRAIN.

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    2. Thanks Alex999 for saying what was on my mind. AhaYAH, thanks for stating the obvious symbols and how science proves correct lineage.

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  40. de y-dna is israelites along with cf... i tell u....boy you devils never stop lol! a and b is ham, j is ishmael, o is japhet.....l is elam.... now i can get in more details.....but i m just letting every body know,,,,,that esau's secret societies is trying to make us forget who we are....if yo wana know who the israelites are ...just read deut 28 & you will learn that e,c,d,f, (negroes and black aborigines fit this prophecy ...no one on earth fit this more thn e, d, c, and f *.....shalom!

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  41. e1b1b1 M35 is 20% of jews and over 85% of Somalis.hope that clears up,if one can claim its the latter. Its one thing to be scientific and anotha to be political. Running away from black has destroyed the truth about DNA.
    We whites had messed up the climate,resources and indigenous peoples of this world and now we claiming their body parts and plasma!

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